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  What would this world be like today , if their was never , ever , any concept of a GOD or a Creator .?

  by smiddy in

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  given the fact that religion has been such a divisive force throughout history amongst all nations and tribes of the earth , i wonder how things might have been different had their been no god / creator / religion in the mix.. of course religion alone has not been the cause of all mankinds troubles & conflicts with each other , nationalism , polotics , racism , to name a few are also guilty of these problems.. but it seems to me that religion , beleif in a creator / god and its consequences of such a beleif are the cheif causes of mankinds troubles.. remember this is your thoughts if a creator , god , religion didnt exist in human conscience .. what are your thoughts ?.

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  I don't think it's belief in a God/creator per se that is the problem, it is the widespread belief that ancient scriptures written by scientifically ignorant, superstitious desert dwelling nomads (Hebrew Scriptures, Koran) are literally the inspired word of God that is the problem.

  The most primitive and natural religious feeling was worship of the sun and astrological entities. The sun moved and gave light and warmth, the moon changed shape from full to a crescent, the stars and comets moved, etc. These movements were predictable and corresponded to changes in the temperature, length of days, seasons, harvest productivity, etc. All this movement and their apparent affect on earth suggested to the ancients higher power/s that were to be praised/appeased.

  This is what is left after stripping away all scripture based ideas of God. Basically, animism.
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  Well, what can you say???? I am speechless.

  by DATA-DOG in

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  exhibit a:.

  awake!

  "if you are a young person, you also need to face the fact that you will never grow old in this present system of things.

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  “The World Has Ended — Millions Now Living Will Never Die”- Judge Rutherford

  "If you are a young person, you also need to face the fact that you will never grow old in this present system of things." 1969 Awake.

  "At this the serpent said to the woman: “You certainly will not die." - Genesis 3:4
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  Would You Become A JW Again If Local Congregations Could Become Independent?

  by Space Madness in

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  for those who still believe in god, if local congregations could break away from the watchtower would you consider becoming a witness again.

  this would mean no more governing body, circuit overseers, watchtower magazines, and each congregation could have its own "new light".

  most of us left because of the control (no college, disfellowsipping) but if the watchtower was out of the picture, all of this would disappear.

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  Dreams are free. PRECIOUS UNITY is the most important attribute to the Watchtower Society, EVEN MORE IMPORTANT THAN SCRIPTURAL TRUTH!
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  God Appointed An Organization In The Year 1936 (means JWs lost out!)

  by abiather in

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  here are the excerpts from an article (published in an international magazine the world renewal, april issue of 2014) written by a former jw.

  he says he started searching for an organization that appeared on the world scene after 1935, which follow jesus 100%.

  if jesus is real, there should be some organization copying him 100% knowingly or unknowingly.

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  Celibacy? F#ck that. Beware any cult that denies our true human nature. Nor did Jesus ever teach or preach celibacy. God made us with a libido and lusts.
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  Congregation Pledge Disgusted Elder

  by rrb2016 in

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  2. suggestions

  at the meeting the other night, the elder who had to read the announcements, which included the $$ info for the new donation arrangement seemed downright disgusted as he read the announcements and asked for the vote.

  he said, "well, here is another organizational change" as he read the letter about the discontinuation of the 2nd meeting during co visit.

  then after they voted, he said if you have any questions ask this other elder as if he wanted nothing to do with it.

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  Justified righteous indignation at this stealth tithing and mandatory donation demand by the Society. What did Jesus say about turning it into a "den of thieves"?

  
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  JWs in a frenzy!

  by leaving_quietly in

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  anyone else get the distinct impression that jws are being worked up into a frenzy with all the changes and activity nowadays?

  by the end of august, there will have been four campaigns inside of a year.

  one last november, a memorial campaign, a convention campaign and an advertise jw.org campaign.. then there's the conventions with all the hooplah around that with all the video, and the aggrandizement of synchronized gb talks.

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  Very interesting comments Ocean111, very interesting. I strongly suspect you are right about the real negative growth that is being covered over with fictional growth for PR purposes.

  I think over the last 10 or so years the donations have really dried up, big-time. The GB are now starting to hit the panic stations and cash in the Watchtower Society's chips.
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  Anonymous Donation - Not!

  by why144000 in

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  my mother in law (in her 80's) just told me that she had the elders around to pick up her 'donation' pledge.

  it was 'suggested that $20 a month was the average amount pledged but she could pledge more or less.

  so, rather than an anonymous amount they have a signed document stating the amount of her pledge.

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  Roll up, roll up, snake oil for sale here...

  

  
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  Keep Seeking First God's Kingdom - RC 2014 - Saturday

  by OwnAccord in

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  jehovah's help break free.. "greedy people".

  but the desire to have more money, power and.

  helped student.

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  Disturbing to see this escalating pattern of equivocating the organisation's accomplishments over the last 100 years with the rule of God's Kingdom.

  God's Kingdom = the organisation.
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  What is spirit, exactly?

  by Viviane in

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  i've always wondered that.

  recently i asked that question on another thread and didn't really get ananswer.

  cofty made an excellent point that we often hear what it isn't, but that really isn't useful.. so, what is it?

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  Look up "Insight on the Scriptures", doh! or Wikipaedia.
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  Why does the new NWT not say outright that Jesus began to rule in 1914?

  by yadda yadda 2 in

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  why???????.

  http://www.jwstudies.com/2013_nwt__pages_1766__1767.jpg.

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  Why???????

  http://www.jwstudies.com/2013_NWT__pages_1766__1767.jpg